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Quotations re Christian Religion / Institutionalised Church

Christian Religion

Tradition is idolatry

  • “Experience supplies painful proof that traditions once called into being are first called useful, then they become necessary. At last they are too often made idols, and all must bow down to them or be punished.” (J.C. Ryle)
  • “Know this: it’s the ones who read the Bible who cause the trouble for dead religion. Why? Religion works in the realm of ignorance and in the realm of the soul. It bases its facts on thoughts, legends, and what denominations dream up instead of what the actual Scriptures state.”  (Roberts Liardon, p135 God’s Generals II, Whittaker House, New Kensington, 2003)

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False Teaching
  • No man can say Jesus is Lord save by the Holy Ghost, yet man is seeking to interpret (& say Jesus is Lord) in terms of reason, history , (education) & philosophy”  (Samuel Chadwick, The Way to Pentecost , mid 1800’s)
  • “We have somehow got hold of the idea that error is only that which is outrageously wrong; and we do not seem to understand that the most dangerous person of all is the one who does not emphasise the right things(D. Martyn Lloyd-Jones, Sermon on the Mount, 2:244)
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Institutional Theological Education

“The Christian religion, begins in a new birth by the Spirit. It develops under His guidance, & is sustained by His Presence;”  But ignoring the Spirit, it becomes a matter of education & evolution” (Samuel Chadwick, The Way to Pentecost , mid 1800’s)

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Theological Education as a form of idolatry

“when intellectualism takes the place of spirituality, then study has become an idol”( Ken Eckerty, “Why I left the Organized Church  A personal testimony”)

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Church that has Lost its Way
  • “….the lust for talk about work increases as the power for work decreases. Conferences multiply when work fails…. (Samuel Chadwick, The Way to Pentecost , mid 1800’s)
  • “The Church is the Body of Christ begotten, unified & indwelt by the Spirit. But forgetting the Spirit, men wrangle over limbs, functions & orders” (Samuel Chadwick, The Way to Pentecost , mid 1800’s)
  • “It is possible to excel in mechanics but fail in dynamic. To run an organisation needs no God…..machinery without power” (Samuel Chadwick, The Way to Pentecost , mid 1800’s)
  • “This generation we know, and the generation of the faithful we know: here is a separation between the precious and the vile, between the holy and the profane; so all people weigh and consider in what generation you are.” Quote from  (HL Ingle, First among Friends, George Fox and the creation of Quakersim, 1996, Oxford University Press) George Fox (1659)
  • “Consider the Catholic Church: This is an institution that excommunicates women who want to become priests, but it does not excommunicate male priests who rape children. The Church is more concerned about stopping contraception than stopping genocide. It is more worried about gay marriage than about nuclear proliferation. When we realize that morality relates to questions of human and animal well-being, we can see that the Catholic Church is as confused about morality as it is about cosmology. It is not offering an alternative moral framework; it is offering a false one”. Quote from Sam Harris at http://www.samharris.org/site/full_text/the-moral-landscape-q-a-with-sam-harris/ Though may Christians are concerned similarly, Harris appears stridently anti-Christian -Editor.
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Church as a School

“The carnal can argue but it is the Spirit that convicts. Education can civilise, but it is being born of the Spirit that saves.” (Samuel Chadwick, The Way to Pentecost , mid 1800’s)

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Religious Spirit & Slander
  • “You can never please a religious spirit. I have said this thousands of times, and I’ll say it again. In all my travels throughout the world, I’ve encountered all kinds of evil, deceptive spirits. But I’ve never seen a meaner, more vicious spirit than the spirit of religion. It disguises itself so you think you are serving God. Its nature is wicked, spiteful, jealous, and malicious. It is a murdering spirit with a ‘nice’ camouflage. It demands horrific works that eventually send people into sin, error or the grave. It was one of these spirits behind the betrayal of Jesus. You’ll never appease it, nor will you ever please God through it.
  • Today in our society, religious spirits don’t openly burn people at the stake or martyr them like the Roman Catholic Church once did. However, some acts of terrorism have a religious spirit connected to them. A common way a religious spirit tries to murder someone is by assassinating that person’s reputation with gossip. We need to recognize the strategies of the religious spirit ….. Our mind-set has been lulled by the religious spirit, making us want to run from the person being slandered instead of finding the truth and joining with them to bring about divine change on the earth…”  (Roberts Liardon, p129 God’s Generals II, Whittaker House, New Kensington, 2003) The religious spirit can be manifest in non-overtly religious way, as in political ideology, or in the workplace or the schoolroom. It can often appear to be anti-religious. But it acts the same way to slander & murder [Editor]
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Revival
  • “Every generation needs a reformation, because when we forget our history or our reason for living, then our reliance upon the Holy SPirit can grow dormant, and the heavens close and become brazen” (Roberts Liardon, p11 God’s Generals II, Whittaker House, New Kensington, 2003)  It can be easily argued that reformation in every generation requires that every generation needs to re-discover church as well. Revival is a corporate expression of mass individual regeneration. Historically, it tends to occur outside of, and despite institutionalised church.
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Institutionalising the Role of the Holy Spirit
  • “Confusion & Impotence are inevitable when the wisdom & resources of the world are substituted for the presence & power of the Holy Spirit …..Christian Religion has been reconstructed without the Holy Spirit”……despite the intense interest in Jesus, the certainties about him that come through the Holy Spirit have been lost” (Samuel Chadwick, The Way to Pentecost , mid 1800’s)
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Spiritless Christianity
  • When religion turns to humanity for its inspiration and to the world for its power, God is dethroned & the sanctuary becomes a secularised fellowship.” (Samuel Chadwick, The Way to Pentecost , mid 1800’s)
  • In the absence of the supernatural, earnest souls may turn to the best substitute they can find, & believe they are doing God’s service.”(Samuel Chadwick, The Way to Pentecost , mid 1800’s)
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Christian Experience
  • “The liberty of prophesying has gone because men believe in investigation & not in inspiration …Christian experience, though it may be said to begin in the Spirit, must be perfected in the wisdom of the flesh and the culture of the schools….…these things flourish on impoverished soil & dung hills. They are the works of the flesh & the product of spiritual death…. The answer is in the demonstration of supernatural religion, and the only way to supernatural religion is the abiding presence of the Holy Spirit.” (Samuel Chadwick, The Way to Pentecost , mid 1800’s)
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Religion as the Enemy of Man
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  1. Next month will mark my 42nd year as a Christian. I came across your website, and as I was browsing through the titles under the section of Quotations re Christian Religion /Institutionalized Church, a title that grabbed my attention was “Institutionalizing the Role of the Holy Spirit.

    The reason why that grabbed my attention, was because in 2012, I wrote an article “School of the Holy Spirit.” I end the article with the words “The Institutional Church System” has “in effect” Institutionalized the Role of the Holy Spirit!”

    School of the “Holy Spirit”

    The Lord enrolls “each” & “every” Christian in a “LIFETIME COURSE” in the School of the Holy Spirit. In the School of the Holy Spirit, there are NO “bachelor’s degrees” or “master’s degrees” or “doctoral degrees,” etc.

    The Lord qualifies leaders “THROUGH” the School of the Holy Spirit. However, man has decided that in order to be qualified to pastor and teach, that one must become ordained through some type of “man-made institution” such as: “bible school,” “school of divinity,” “school of theology,” etc. There is “no place” in the New Testament that teaches this.

    In the School of the Holy Spirit, there are “No Ordination Papers.”

    Interestingly, we find that when JESUS was on earth, it was the priests & doctors of the law who were already highly educated concerning Old Testament “Scripture,” whom JESUS offended by telling them, “YOU DO ERR, NOT KNOWING THE SCRIPTURES,” & telling them, “HAVE YOU NOT READ IN THE SCRIPTURES,” and telling them, “IT IS WRITTEN.” These religious leaders were INFURIATED that JESUS, “who had no degrees in Biblical studies,” would even dare to attempt to teach them. After all, they were the ones who were highly educated in Biblical studies, and had their degrees.

    2000 years later, things have not changed. Just let the average Christian layman, who has no degree in Biblical studies try to communicate to a Pastor that something that he is teaching does not seem to line up with the “Scriptures.” Even though that Pastor may not openly display his resentment, deep down he is probably quite resentful that an ordinary layman would dare question his teaching or understanding of the “Scriptures,” because after all, he is the one who has been highly educated in Biblical studies, and has his degree or degrees.

    In the Kingdom of God a piece of paper “does not qualify” an individual to pastor and teach. If that were the case, then JESUS and the Apostles would have clearly told us so in the “Scriptures.” The Institutional Church “System” has “in effect” Institutionalized the ROLE of the Holy Spirit!

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