Quotes Regarding Islam
A number of quotes regarding Islam have been submitted over the years to thedebriefing.net
This website is not concerned with promoting or the intricacies of Islam. It looks at the world from a Christian viewpoint.
A muslim quote on September 11, 2003
God commands justice and doing good and giving to relatives. And He forbids indecency and doing wrong and tyranny. He warns you so that hopefully you will pay heed.
- Please note that these verses are not in context. They are printed as is and the reader should look them up to understand the argument of many peaceful Muslim people that they do not justify the hatred which many have witnessed and experienced. It is not too hard to see how some well-versed and educated Muslim men can interpret the Qu’ran as teaching ‘principles’ that apply at all times and places in the way outlined. In fact this interpretation is what is found on many ‘extremist’ websites
Endless warfare until Islam reigns supreme in the world
- 8:36 “make war on them until idolatry shall cease and God’s religion shall reign supreme”.
- This ultimately excludes appeasement, or a notion of peaceful co-existence, unless the Qu’ran is ignored by Muslims.
The necessity for an Islamic government (or Caliphate, Theocracy etc) and its interest in conquest
- 8:41 “one-fifth of your spoils shall belong to God, the Apostle, the Apostle’s kinsfolk, the orphans, the needy, and those that travel the road”
The absolute requirement to submit to this agenda and government
- 8:24 “believers, obey God and the Apostle when he calls you to that which gives life.
Expediency is to characterise political, economic or other objectives through agreement with non-muslims
- 9:4 “keep faith with these until their treaties have run their term”
The devaluation of non-islamic human life
- 8:57 “The basest creatures in the sight of God are the faithless who will not believe; those who time after time violate their treaties with you and have no fear of God. If you capture them in battle discriminate between them and those that follow them”
- This is another key difference between the New Testament and the Qu’ran. The Christian view of people is that every person is made in the image of God and has inherent dignity that makes any abuse of that individual and discrimination against the person as a person sinful. People who turn to Jesus are not considered to be superior to those who haven’t done so, nor do they inherit eternal life because somehow they are inherently worthier than those who don’t inherit eternal life.
- 9:7 “God and his apostle repose no trust in idolaters, save those with whom you have made treaties at the Sacred Mosque”
- 9:3 “God and his apostle are under no obligation to the idolaters. If you repent, it shall be well with you”
- Christians are under the obligation to love others, and deal with them justly, whether or not they repent
Instruction to break treaty’ with non-muslims simply on suspicion
- 8:58 “If you fear treachery from any of your alllies, you may fairly retaliate by breaking off your treaty with them.”
Islamic ‘states’ must always be supreme even if this requires warfare to ensure dominance
- 8:59 “Do not let the unbelievers think they will ever get away. Muster against them ……all that you give for the cause of God shall be repaid to you.
- 8:65 “Prophet, rouse the faithful to arms”
- Note that this role has been taken up by religious leaders in Islamic communities and nations today
- Also not that this is one of the key differences between the New Testament and the Qu’ran. Christians are never instructed to take up arms, to impose their will on non-Christians , nor to establish Christian government. The teaching in the New Testament is that Christians are to live in peace and to show love and justice to all people.
The true Muslim will wage war for the cause of God, and help Muslims fight such battles
- 8:74 “Those that have embraced the Faith and fled their homes and faought for the cause of God, and those that have sheltered them – they are the true believers. They shall receive mercy and a generous provision”
- There is nothing like this teaching in God’s revelation to Christians through Jesus Christ. A true believer in the Bible is one who worships God in Spirit and in Truth
Reward for sacrfice in war for the domination of Islam
- 8:60 “..all that you give for the cause of God shall be repaid to you.
- 9:23 “Their Lord has promised them joy and mercy from Himself, and gardens of eternal bliss where they shall dwell forever. God’s reward is great indeed.
Those who are to be treated with ‘peace’ and ‘mercy’ are those who submit to Islam
- 9:5 “When the sacred months are over, slay the idolaters wherever you find them. Arrest them, and lie in ambush everywhere for them. If they repent and take to prayer and render the alms levey, allow them to go on their way. God is forgiving and merciful.”
Even those who submit to Islam are to be treated with suspicion
- 9:20 Do you pretend that he who gives a drink to the pilgrims and pays a visit to the Sacred Mosque is as worthy as a man who believes in God and the last day and fights for God’s cause. These are not held equal by God.”
- It is fundamental to New Testament teaching that all men and women are not only created equal, but all worldly distinctions of rank, privilege and status are to be ignored in Christian fellowship and community. All stand equal before God and all are to be considered equal in Christian community and fellowship. All that is necessary to enter equal fellowship before God is repentance and submission to Jesus Christ the King
Those who are born Muslims or are culturally muslims have no choice but to submit or face the consequences. Muslims who continue to show friendship to those who choose not to be Muslim are not submitting to God
- 9:23 “Believers, do not befriend your fathers or your brothers if they choose unbelief in preference to faith. Wrongdoers are those who befriend them”
- It is fundamental to New Testament teaching that all men and women must personally choose to repent and submit to Jesus Christ the King. Christians are to continue to relate to them, to love them and to live in non-Christian communities with those who have not chosen Jesus. God created us free to choose. That is because he wants genuine responses, not responses out of compulsion. In the end it is the type of relationship with God that is contrasted here. There is no coercion in a relationship of love between a loving God and a faithful adopted son or daughter.
Muslims who do not engage in warfare and discrimination against resistance non-muslims are inferior and to be treated appropriately
- 8:72 “Those that have embraced the Faith, but have not fled their homes (to fight for the cause of God 8:71), shall in no way become your friends until they have done so.
- 9:39 “If you do not fight, He will punish you sternly, and replace you with other men……”
- 9:41 “Whether unarmed or well-equipped, march on and fight for the cause of God, with your wealth and with your persons. This will be best for you, if you but knew it”
- God’s revelation to Christians through Jesus Christ knows nothing of this kind of teaching. Christians are to ‘love’ their enemies and warfare against anyone is never espoused or instructed. In a sense here we see the way one demonstrates himself to be a true Muslim – to fight. Islamic scholars often argue that the historical context is the struggle of Abu-Bakr, later the first of the Rightly-guided Caliphs. Nevertheless, extremists (visit their websites) see that the principle itself still holds, and that the fight (rather than being internal against the Devil and disobedience) is external warfare against all who oppose the establishment of a world Islamic Caliphate. The historical context in the Qu’ran is certainly one of warfare against non-Muslims (and possibly Muslims unwilling to fight) in support of the emergence of Caliphate rule (or equivalent).
The prescribed manner of killing
- 8:12 ”Smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them.”
- The common use of beheadings and mutliations seems to be a legitimate expression of faithfulness
Muslims are to fight against and subdue Christians and Jews and force them into a powerless tribute to the Islamic authority
- Christians and Jews must either convert to Islam or become a tribute paying & powerless subclass
- 9:29 “Fight against those to whom the Scriptures were given as believe neither in God or the Last Day, who do not forbid what God and His apostle have forbidden, and do not embrace the true Faith, until they pay tribute out of hand and are utterly subdued.”
- 9:30 The Jews say Ezra is the son of God, while the Christians say the Messiah is the son of God. Such are their assertions by which they imitate the infidels of old. God confound them! How perverse they are!
Coercion of Christians and Jews
- 9:33 Its is He who has sent forth His apostle with guidance and the true Faith to make it triumphant over all religions, however much the idolaters may dislike it.
- This type of teaching makes it clear that ‘tolerance’ is not the objective for those who are obedient to the Qu’ran. The instruction referring to the ‘liking or disliking’ of the supremacy of Islam makes this clear
Avoid Friendships with Christians
- “Believers, take not Christians and Jews for your friends.”
Violence against Unbelievers
Twisting Islam to justify cruelty
Date May 27, 2013
Sydney Morning Herald columnist
“Thousands of Muslims, including Adebolajo, have cited the Koran to justify murder.
Here is a sample from the more than 100 verses in the Koran that call Muslims to violence against the Unbelievers:
”Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers …
”And slay them wherever ye find them …”
”As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony …”
”Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward.”
”Slay the idolaters wherever you find them …”
”Fight those who believe not in Allah …”
And so on. So, too, does the body of jurisprudence which accompanies the Koran, the Hadiths, bristle with calls to jihad: ”I have been made victorious with terror …”
”And jihad will be performed continuously …”
”Kill any Jew who falls under your power.”
”Fight everyone in the way of Allah and kill those who disbelieve in Allah.”
So many Muslims have been encouraged to murder civilians by such exhortations that the rate of violent incidents perpetrated in the name of Islam is staggering, a toll that shows no sign of subsiding. The website thereligionofpeace.com, which maintains a record of terrorist acts committed in the name of Islam, has logged an astounding 20,939 terrorist acts committed in the name of Islam since the attacks of September 11, 2001. Thereligionofpeace.com keeps a monthly list of bloody incidents and during the past 30 days it records 222 incidents, in 25 different countries, including much of the Arab world and North Africa, and Britain, France, Russia, Nigeria, Thailand, the Philippines and China. (Apologists for Muslim violence claim that thereligionofpeace.com does not provide sources for its lists and thus has no credibility, which is nonsense as every incident is based on credible published reports.)
Seventy per cent of these 222 incidents in the past month took place in four countries – Iraq, Pakistan, Afghanistan and Syria – all battlefields in the ancient religious civil war between Sunni and Shiite Muslims, a civil war more violent now than it has been for decades.
The existence of this violent sectarian schism, and the systemic repression of religious dissent throughout the Muslim world, demolish the absurd claim that Islam is ”a religion of peace”.
Most Muslims are peaceful, like most non-Muslims, but the Koran groans under the weight of its own contradictions, with entreaties to kindness co-existing with exhortations to merciless war. If the Koran were only a text of peace and mercy, tens of thousands of Muslims could not invoke its verses to engage in violence. Those who gravitate to the wrathful messages of the Koran bring their own pathologies with them, which they then cloak in zealous piety. Apologists argue that those who use the Koran to justify violence are not Islamic. And in the West there is fearfulness to trigger the belligerent victimology that extreme Muslims use to cloak intransigence, separatism and special-pleading.
The most disturbing aspect of the record of violence of Muslims invoking the name of Islam in violence is that the public record understates, not overstates, the problem. Not included in the log of violent crimes are the outbreaks of civil violence such as the riots that have rocked Stockholm over the past week, where an urban underclass of predominantly Muslim immigrants, refugees and asylum-seekers and their children has erupted in violence, vandalism and attacks on police. You will not find the word ”Muslim” in media reports.”
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/comment/twisting-islam-to-justify-cruelty-20130526-2n535.html#ixzz2US9ec780
an article by Paul Sheehan
Book Review : The Legacy of Jihad This is an excellent scholarly book written by an Associate Professor of Medicine